with in the religion of south africa, there has been so much to mull. -- tumult. catholic, what do you see for south africa as they try to move forward? this is a huge issue. >> nelson mandela was a huge, unifying figure. even in the last years of his life, he still helped people together. what will happen among these groups in the coming days and years will be critical. >> when you see south africa, do you perceive that religion still is front and center? i believe that he was in a methodist school coming out of the tribes way back. his religion still important there? >> i think that the anglican church still has a presence there. it can definitely play a role. >> part of the problem that they with his is within -- retreat from public life. politics has become much more better. much like america. much more tension and conflict. >> matt dowd is with us. michelle meyer, thank you for being with us. thank u so much for coming by on this historic day. let's do a forex report. we went conventional. markets are really moving. the euro is up. much more on "bloomberg sur